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Old 06-21-2009, 12:52 PM
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Gang rape: Is it a race issue?

A high proportion of such attacks appears to be carried out by young black men, according to Metropolitan Police statistics. Sorious Samura investigates this horrendous crime – and what it says about Britain today

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In 1999 I witnessed a gang rape in Sierra Leone. I was forced to watch a group of rebel soldiers taking it in turns to rape a young girl in front of an audience of jeering men. It was the height of the civil conflict and rape had become a devastating weapon of war. When I moved to Britain I believed I had escaped such horrific sexual violence. As my Dispatches investigation tomorrow night shows, I was mistaken. Gang rape is happening here – and what I have found most disturbing as an African is that a disproportionate number
of these attacks are being carried out by black or mixed-race young men.

Towards the end of last year, police and child welfare experts working on Channel 4's Street Weapons Commission told us of their concerns about gang rape. Then two big cases hit the headlines.

In December, nine schoolboys, some as young as 13 at the time of the attack, were convicted of raping a 14-year-old girl. She was dragged between tower blocks in Hackney where she was threatened with a knife, hit and raped during an ordeal that lasted an hour and a half – some of which was filmed on mobile phones. In January, three men were convicted of gang raping a 16-year-old with learning disabilities for two hours before dousing her with caustic soda in an effort to get rid of the evidence.

How prevalent is this crime and why it is happening in Britain? Despite the seriousness of the crime, I was amazed to discover that no national statistics exist: gang rape is simply not recorded as a separate crime category. So o
ver a period of several months we set about collating our own.

We approached the Crown Prosecution Service, the Association of Chief Police Officers, all 50 police forces, crown courts, barristers and rape referral centres to try to establish the numbers.

One of the few police forces to have begun recording the figures of reported gang rape is the Metropolitan Police. In 2008 alone, they received reports of 85 gang rapes. Using the Met's definition of gang rape – those involving three or more perpetrators – we began to look at the number of convictions. We tracked down 29 cases, from January 2006 to March 2009, in which a total of 92 young people were convicted of involvement in gang rape.

One fact stood out. Of those convicted, 66 were black or mixed race, 13 were white and the remainder were from other countries including Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

Clearly this is not a crime exclusive to black communities, but I found it impossible to ignore the fact that such a high proportio
n were committed by black and mixed-race young men. As a black man as well as a journalist, I wanted to understand what lay behind such attacks. So I spoke to victims, groups of black and mixed-race teenagers, youth and social workers and community leaders.
The groups of young men I met in London expressed some profoundly disturbing attitudes towards girls and sex. The boys explained how they make arrangements for "line-ups" in which one girl has oral sex with up to six or seven of them at one time. These arrangements might be made at school or on mobile phones.

Sometimes these girls initially consent because they want to be popular. But these events can spiral into rape because the boys consider that any girl who is prepared to agree to a line-up can be considered fair game. One boy told me: "If she wants to go and meet a bag of boys then she's probably a jezzie [slut], and if she's going to a house it's over – she's going to get beaten [have sex]."
In other instances, as some of the victims
in our film describe, girls can unwittingly walk into a trap, innocently visiting someone's house to listen to music or watch a film only to discover that a group of boys are lying in wait. Or they might be hanging out with friends in a park and suddenly realise they have become surrounded by a group of boys intent on sex.

For both boys and girls, the line between this sort of group sex and rape seems to be blurred. A girl might agree to have oral sex with two or three boys but then be ordered to have sex with six or seven. The teenage girls I met told me that boys simply don't understand what rape is. And yet this is a crime that can ruin lives and is punishable by life imprisonment.

Occasionally gang rape is used to punish a girl for minor transgressions against gang members. In one of my most shocking interviews, I met a girl who admitted she had helped to set up girls for gang rape. As the girlfriend of a gang member, she organised these rapes, partly out of fear and partly to fit in.

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mitted she was terrified of being raped herself and had walked away when witnessing a girl being gang-raped at a party because she feared she might be next: "There was just loads of boys and the girl's tights were ripped up, like, she was bleeding as well, because I think she was a virgin, and they were just taking turns on her basically, and she was crying, and I didn't get involved because I thought if I get involved they're gonna turn on me."

The victims' descriptions of their attacks are horrific. One young victim likened her attack to being "pulled and pushed around like a rag doll", while another 14-year-old girl described her ordeal when she was gang raped by a total of nine boys who told her that she was not the only girl they had attacked. In that case, nine boys were subsequently convicted of raping her. The youngest perpetrator was just 12 years old.

I found there was concern among black communities about this violence. The Rev Joyce Daley, from the Black Parents Forum in Hackney, told
me that gang rape is not a rare or one-off phenomenon. It is happening on a regular basis. She said: "It could actually explode on our very streets." Steve Griffith, a youth worker in King's Cross, said: "I see too much abuse of young women on the streets."

Gang rape, while constituting only a tiny percentage of all rapes in the UK, is a horrible reality in this country. The nature of the crime is so appalling that much more research needs to be carried out into its causes. But what seems evident from my investigation is that the key to preventing it will be changing the way young men view women and the kind of group sexual activity they are engaging in at such a young age.

Sheldon Thomas, a youth worker in Brixton, said: "We've got a generation that looks at sex as if it's nothing, and treats disrespecting women as if it's nothing. These guys are like 13, 14 and 15, and their actual attitudes towards young girls – towards sex – is mind-blowing. It's actually leaving you asking: where
are their morals, where are their values?"
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A real simple solution:

Wanna significantly decrease gangrape?

Significantly decrease the nigger population.

Wanna get rid of the word "nigger"?

Get rid of niggers.
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Interesting how they try to hide nigger crime - Muggers blamed for increase in gang rapes - even though it reports that a disproportionately high involvement of blacks and what the English call Asians - the headline screams muggers! Not niggers! Disproportionately is a word that clearly means almost all.


By John Steele, Crime Correspondent
Published: 12:01AM GMT 14 Jan 2004

A hardcore of muggers are behind an alarming number of gang rapes in London, according to Scotland Yard.

There has been a group sex attack for every day of the last year - and two thirds of the suspects had convictions for theft and robbery. Half had been involved in street crime in the previous 12 months.

Most of the attackers were aged between 15 and 21, suggesting that the assaults - which mainly took place outside late at night or in the small hours - were a
n extension of the criminal activities of young robbers.

Scotland Yard is treating the evidence with care because it has sensitive racial overtones. It suggests a disproportionately high involvement of young black or Asian males in group sex attacks and that a high proportion of the victims are white females.

There is evidence that incidence of group rape is rising in other inner city areas of Britain, but little detailed research has been produced.

In the five-month Scotland Yard study, suspects of African/Caribbean appearance were identified in 49 per cent of attacks. A further 13 per cent were committed by men of Indian/Pakistani appearance.

However, many of the attacks occurred in areas with high ethnic minority communities and, police believe, reflected the street population and the lawless activities of a small minority of black youths, many excluded from schools and from dislocated families.

Youths from other ethnic groups, including whites
, were involved in the gangs, suggesting that the attacks were linked to overall patterns of youth crime rather than simply race.

Women and girls of white/European appearance accounted for 59 per cent of victims but the sexual violence also heavily affected the black community, with 28 per cent of victims described as African/Caribbean.

About 70 per cent of victims were attacked in "outdoor locations", often near main roads.

Half the victims were under 21, with 75 per cent under 30. More than half the assaults involved three or more attackers.

Scotland Yard has been concerned for some time about "group rape", which began to rise in 2001, along with street crime. The Yard does not use the term gang rape, arguing that this falsely suggests the crime is linked to clearly-defined youth gangs.

Police believe that disrespect for women, who are often known to the attackers, and ignorance of what is "right and wrong" in sexual affairs, lie at the heart of the crime.

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culties for the police in securing a conviction in these cases include finding evidence to support the victims' claims, or disproving defences of consent.

However, Det Chief Insp Stuart Macleod, of the Met's Operation Sapphire, which deals with crimes of sexual violence, said: "We are in the business of encouraging people - women and, at times, men - to report rape. It is immensely difficult.

"The common sense approach is that someone would be unlikely to come forward and report rape, and go through the ordeal than can be involved, if they are not telling the truth. We start from that premise."

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I just reviewed a State of Florida rape report, which stated that 1 in 9 females in Florida has been raped at one time or another. The ONLY time race/ethnicity was mentioned in the report was that of the woman, not of the rapists. Of course, Hispanic and Negro women had higher rates of rape, but the report also stated that those women were the least likely to report rape, so the rate was probably higher.I wanted to post the report in the forum, but since it didn't really mention the race of the rapists, not much point to post it AND there really isn't a place to post scientific reports like that. This is more an individual crime reporting forum and I understand that.
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There is no question as gang rape is genetically programmed into Africans, them being so little evolved from their simian forebearers.

Madkins posted an interesting gang-rape survey in Darkest Africa the other day which I want to reference below; England's problem would be ever more obvious if they had a majority of niggers running rampant through the land.


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Quarter of men in South Africa admit rape, survey finds

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One in four men in South Africa have admitted to rape and many confess to attacking more than one victim, according to a study that exposes the country's endemic culture of sexual violence.

Three out of four rapists first attacked while still in their teens, the study found. One in 20 men said they had raped a woma
n or girl in the last year.

South Africa is notorious for having one of the highest levels of rape in the world. Only a fraction are reported, and only a fraction of those lead to a conviction.
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...I wanted to post the report in the forum, but since it didn't really mention the race of the rapists, not much point to post it AND there really isn't a place to post scientific reports like that. This is more an individual crime reporting forum and I understand that.
Just in case you hadn't noticed we have a couple of miscellaneous forums
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Yeh, saw (those) and thought about posting it there. Thanks for the suggested "Tower of Babel", overlooked that one, for some reason. Gabrielle must be one smart lady.
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